Which Pioneer mixer is better?

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fun fact - Behringer ripped off the 600 - and made the DJX-700 - which soundwise is better and cheaper than the 600 :P - but without the same fx - and the reliability of a papyrus found in a pyramid :)


you can hear it in the high frequencies - on neutral monitors - most speakers atm is not sound neutral - not even the DJ headphones are :) - but when i listen my liverecordings @ home - i can hear the flaws of the 600 - there are even ppl out there that doesent believe that 192 kbps mp3 - is just as good 320 :) - and you can hear its not. ideally all should have wav - but as we all know lossless formats arent exactly small :)
 
lol @ behringer being better than pioneer
 
dfx> soundwise yeah - usability & sound combined the 600 would win - hands down - but soundwise the behringer is better in the higher frequencies than a 600 :)

oh and i just love your whole attitude dfx :)
 
btw - uhm.. the whole argument for the 400 is - you pretty much only use 2 channels anyway :P
 
DJM 800 all the way, midi controller does it for me
 
When I started to look for DJ gear I came across the DJM-400 and I've been hell bent on getting this mixer for myself; what really caught my eye was the World's First In-Loop Sampler. But today I came across the Numark 5000FX mixer which has a sampler and some similar effects. Can anyone give me some insight?? all opinions are greatly appreciated.
Keep in mind that I do not have any DJ gear yet nor have I ever really done any beatmatching.
 
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500 here but would like to get 800 too, or just go allen & heath....4 eq's/channel.. muahhhaaa.....
 
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apocalypse_now said:
When I started to look for DJ gear I came across the DJM-400 and I've been hell bent on getting this mixer for myself; what really caught my eye was the World's First In-Loop Sampler. But today I came across the Numark 5000FX mixer which has a sampler and some similar effects. Can anyone give me some insight?? all opinions are greatly appreciated.
Keep in mind that I do not have any DJ gear yet nor have I ever really done any beatmatching.
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no gear before? i might be bias but get Kong Zero8. Don't take my word for it, research it; read some reviews, watch some videos... you know the drill ;)
 
they are a bit different mixers. 3000 is 19" 4 channel, vs small 2 channel.
the 3000 improves a little on the sound of the 600, but the 400/700/800 are much better.
the 400 suffers a little from the lack of balanced outputs if you are using it in a club system, 3000 has 1/4" and xlr as well as rca outputs.
effects on both are about the same, both beat sync'd, but the 400 does not have an fx loop, so if you want to use other effects they can only be on one channel or the master out.

I had the 3000 for about 6 years, never had an issue with it, bought the rotary kit and loved that though the fader curve could have been better. was a well laid out and nice ot use mixer. I only sold it as I wanted to move to something different so bought a midi mixer
 
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for Pioneer mixers it goes like this:

Bedroom: DJM-400
Club: 800>1000>700
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Why The DJM-400 only for bedroom, you cant use them for a real mix or a party? Im a rookie on this and im goin to study ofr djying so i want to know
 
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Why The DJM-400 only for bedroom, you cant use them for a real mix or a party? Im a rookie on this and im goin to study ofr djying so i want to know
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the djm-400 has no balanced (xlr) master output, that's why it's not useable for professional setups (such as in a club).
 
most of the clubs, here in south florida ...that i have been in dj booths have knobs and a seperate cross over, with great sounds systems
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I agree with evyqueen87. Every major club here in NYC used to use Urei 1620s or Bozak rotary mixers. These days you also see a lot of Rane 2016s which were modeled after the Urei 1620s; which in turn, were modeled after the Bozak mixer. They use high end knobs instead of cross faders. The mixes you get with these are a lot smoother than any mixer with a cross fader especially if one song is louder than the next.

I remember my first gig at a club that had a Urei. it had 3 turntables suspended on rubber bands and playing out LOUD was so different from playing at home.

if you're just starting out, a two channel mixer is fine. One of my first mixers was a GLI with a cross fader. I made many mix tapes and used it for many mobile gigs. When I bought my first knob mixer, I was amazed on how clean the sound was in comparison. However, if you're really in this for the long-haul, then go with something that has more channels. The added EQ and built-in effects of the newer mixers are cool and you can also buy knob faders to replaced your slide channel faders as an option on some models from the Rane and Vestax units. Not sure if the Pioneers have this option. Either way, if you're using it for scratching, then disregard this little history lesson. :-)
 
You should experiment with several and find out what you feel most comfortable with as well as in your price range, everybody in here is going to tell you what to get but every dj has there own preference. I personally have gone the pioneer path started with 300, then 500,600 and Now currently own the 800 and love it and is commonly found in a lot of clubs. My friend owns an Allen and Heath xone92 witch i really fricking wish i had too!! In my opinion if your just starting out or beginner i would go with the 400
 
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